The public opinion on India's transition to a GPS-based toll collection system is largely negative with mixed reactions. While some people appreciate the potential benefits for improving toll collection efficiency, there are significant concerns about privacy, data security, and potential financial burdens. Skepticism exists regarding the government's ability to implement this system effectively, with many fearing increased complexity, misuse of data, and higher toll costs. Criticism also arises from the focus on toll collection rather than addressing more pressing issues such as road quality and economic challenges.

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RFID is better. Could easily be implemented with less costs like Fastag

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First fill the potholes properly rather than making more money from digitization. Fast tag users have paid enough in advance and their tax bellies are never full.

There is nothing called privacy, all the apps you’re using, all gadgets you’re using are taking all your data

rawknee2015

Yep this should be questioned even further. I don't india to become another china where every citizen is tracked by gov

strongHARSHIT

no my friend, this is an initiative to charge two-wheelers who are using it for free now.
slowly they will introduce on two-wheelers

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lordFourthHokage

I wonder if the people who collect tolls will be out of jobs now?

noraapj

Nothing is stopping the government. When there's an opportunity to violate the privacy of its citizens, governments always take it with both hands and never look back. Especially off the back of India's recent demands to WhatsApp on giving up their encryption for them to continue operating. I don't trust any government,let alone the Indian government (who can't secure their citizens aadhar information) to handle privacy policy with any sort of rigid rules or ethicality in practice.

Although it's early days independent organizations/people who don't have any stake in this project nor with the government should test this system for loopholes &amp; backdoors if the idea of this system being implemented ever gets serious traction.

Rahaman117

No one is talking about the greviance process when your amount is deducted wrongly. You will have to keep running from pillar to post.

Mysterious-lowdown

So what happens if I get on a toll road near my home travel 30 km and then switch to a non-toll road and then return to the toll road? Will I still be charged?

TheBookRider

Government Milking car owners, 

Apne itne distance travele krli h, aage chlne k liye recharge kre.

Aryan_Singh_17

Depends on the implementation 

Many eu nations already have satellite toll

_7567Rex

As a part of consumer choice, the government is duty bound to provide non-toll roads of equally good quality alongside toll roads. But I don't think we will see that any time soon. The govt is only interested in extorting money from road users. Gadkari meanwhile will appear on stage, make some stupid comment on how we need to reduce logistics cost and then announce an increase in toll rates

Every other day random twitter pages announce dates for GPS based toll and this has been happening since last year- no actual work being done on ground

wrongturn6969

Toll collection is what they're focussed on , quality and safety of roads on the other hand is something we don't need to talk about 🙂

ROG_1

usernametaken_23

GPS - Gadkaris Pateli System for toll collection

butmrpdf

We all know this date is fake. It won't happen at least in another 2 years 

But I'm curious to know how the actual model is going to work.

1. Lets assume for new cars the GPS tracker might come as a factory fit, but what about older cars? Are we supposed to buy and install this at whatever price quoted by the Government?

2. How is Government to verify whether the device is working or not. I can disconnect it from my car and go anywhere right? Or are they going to capture my number plate and check whether my GPS is also showing the same location? 

3. Live tracking is a sensitive data. Since data security is a joke in our country, it doesn't make sense to question that anyways

Motor_Doubt8732

this X account is a rw bootlicker that spreads misinformation, ignore it

olduseraccount

Just yesterday received my new fastag and now I am wondering if I should even install it in my car or not.

vanpx

hope they dont charge for overspeeding in same way!

6675636b5f6675636b

This will only work when 100% of vehicles have the GNSS system installed. No-one cares about “fastag only” lanes. Will be the case with GNSS too

srtvpn

Fake News.. Not happening on mentioned date !

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The month is a few weeks' off.

Any word on how/where to get the GPS setup done? Expecting a mad rush and price gouging by the "certified" suppliers.

TrailsNFrag

Even if it is done it will be done on major routes like That Mumbai Bridge or Some Jaipur Delhi not all tolls.

Particular-Ad-241

toll se jyada roads improve karlo

iss desh mei paise khane ke liye sab baithe hain kaam ek dhanka nahi hota

Delhistan

Damn, they r finding ways to milk money from us instead of serving us…

AR10_FC

Theta-Chad_99

even when implemented, can someone elif5 how this thing works?

rage-wedieyoung

marinluv

Using the same technology, can we have GPS based oncoming side drivers and red signal jumpers tracking?

Educational-Bag4684

Every month they post such news and then recycle the whole content and just change the date. 😂

Dante__fTw

So if I go no non toll roads, even then GPS will charge me toll ? It lnows how much I have travelled right, to which places. Also what about privacy ?

bolshoybooze

Somebody commented on a youtube video on this subject that what if I leave the device at home?

Is it for just new cars or all the cars on road?

Lonely_hindu

What happened to the 3000/year toll gyaan which was shared by him a few weeks ago?

super_coder

GPS- Gadkari Payment System. Faster way to pay to Gadkari.

Mr. Gadkari’s slogan- “Just pay higher tolls but don’t ask for better roads”

vbnty

For me its just to keep more in touch with your whereabouts.

iwonttolerateyou2

If Nitin Gadkari said it. Add 5 to 10 years to it.

BaseballLive8618

Heard a fastag monthly/yearly pass was going to launch. Hope it launches fast. For 1000km I have to spend  3-4k just on fastag in 2 days plus fuel extra.

rajaa_betaa

Crafty-Citron5653

1000s of Employees at the toll plaza will lose their jobs.

DragonfruitCurrent76

Forgotten_Millenial

[read more here ](https://www.timesnownews.com/india/no-more-fastag-in-india-from-may-1-india-to-launch-new-toll-collection-system-with-gps-tracking-know-more-article-151440481)

Chilly-777

USA, the land of tolls - EZPASS (NYPA/NJ) , Sunpass (Florida)  Fastrack (California). Auto-replenishes funds in your account via CC.

Salik and fastag are quite similar in technical implementation. But taming the chaos in India is a different kind of challenge altogether. Its not easy to get a smooth system running when people dont want to use fastag or have money left on fastag. No one links their credit card and most people don’t even have a credit card. Couple that with the variety of “vehicles” on Indian highways and the challenge of sending fines to the offenders.

To answer your question, passive RFID based toll systems are quite popular in the west. In Seattle, we have an option of either putting a sticker to windscreen/attaching a tag to the front number plate. If you don’t like either of the options, you can pay 10 cents extra per toll to get your license plate read for toll charges.

HistoricalCourage921

Not really sure what is the question here, many countries in the EU have vignette system where you slide through a toll gate and your vignette sticker is registered. To me Salik was just a regular vignette system. There might be a difference in which you pay once for a vignette while Salik functions as a toll system in which the money is deducted from your account.

Singapore. ERP. Never breaks down, bane of every commuter's existence.

Acadescape

South Africa's eToll system ([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-toll\_(South\_Africa)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-toll_(South_Africa))) works very well technically, but due to the under-handed way it was implemented though nobody is actually paying the fees

GladOrdinary4

Portugal -&gt; Via Verde (green way).

And you can pass under the gates at any speed, it will pick you up. The identifier will also beep to let you know they went to your bank account. 😂

Gate view: https://www.leca-palmeira.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/A41-AutoEstrada.jpg

Identifier, at your car: https://pplware.sapo.pt/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/verde_2.jpg

SirArthurPT

It’s been around for ages in other countries. If anything uae implemented it much later. It’s not really big deal

systemonrails

It’s been recently implemented.. it would take time to be smooth. But better than those toll gates

Terrible-Return

I know lots of places that are way more faster because.... there are no tolls to travel in the city

VigilanteForFreedom

The closest you get is the ERP System in Singapore

Mr_Trident

Facewreck

Currently Kochi to TVM journey requires lots of planning and timing the departure so that it can be completed in 5-6 hours.  If you miss time your departure you are looking at 9-10 hours in horrible traffic and hundreds of intersection with and without signal lights.  

I would be extremely happy if paying Rs 320 would get me from Kochi to TVM in 3-4 hours any time of the day and be able to save atleast 50% of the fuel.

This obsession against paying for things should stop, it’s keeping Kerala backward while we drool at European countries for their good infrastructure without thinking about the costs involved in using it.

slackover

Use train. No tolls and hassle free. Or use MC road. 

If the new road can reduce my travel time by 50% , I am more than happy to pay tolls.

Rokingcloud

EKM - TVM is expected to cost 600+ by 2026.

godsdontplaydice

Toll is much better than putting the entire financial burden of taxpayers who are mostly salaried middle class. Taxpayers are always royally fcked and milked by the govt so this system is the better option. Ath direct tax adakathe dash makkal manasilavilla. Just wanted to bring up this point too.

Even_Possibility_591

# It is a choice between tolls or no roads.

&amp;#x200B;

NHAI's total spending usually is 40k crore per year. They are now spending around 2.7 lakh crore per year by taking huge loans at cheap interest rates(8.5%).

This is the reason for sudden high number of good highways in India.

Now why are they getting such high amount as loans? This is because NHAI tells the lendors that this is a profitable business, you are guaranteed to get your money back because we can collect this much toll per year and repay your debt every year. The lendors see the toll earning potential and approve the loan. We get good roads. The users of those roads pay for it.

Total toll collection in 2021 in entire India was 35k crore. In 2022, it increased to 50k crore. Out of this, NHAI currently only gets 20k crore. Rest go to private highway operators who made highways using old financing model in the past.

NHAI’s current debt servicing cost is Rs 31714 crore which includes Rs 25489 interest and Rs 6225 principal repayment. So, they need to at least earn 31k to keep paying existing loans. Nithin Gadkari aims to collect 1.3lakh crore as toll by 2030. This would give comfortable amount of revenue every year to make and maintain highways.

If we had just relied on the money they get from the govt of India, we would only be making 40k crore worth of roads per year. But because of tolls+cheap-loan, we are able to make 5x more roads. This is highly beneficial for the growth of the country, and also these roads will cost more to make in the future if we do not plan now.

It is fair that the user of the service pay its cost. Plus, the reduced fuel charge usually more than makes up for the toll charges in all roads I analyzed.

Now here is the interesting part. Who are these lendors giving them loans? It is common Indian citizens... NHAI releases bonds every month. Search for " NHAI InvIT". You can even buy for 10k rupees, and earn 8.5% interest instead of bank interest of 7.1%. So, many pensioners and salarymen are giving loans to NHAI.

Now if there is a protest against loans, people will get scared to give loans to NHAI. This means the interest rate will increase, cost of making roads will increase, and it will result in either making no roads, or making expensive roads.

Fdsn

പ്രകൃതി സ്നേഹികൾ ഇപ്പോൾ വിമാനത്തിൽ നിന്ന് താഴെ നോക്കുമ്പോൾ റോഡ് പണി കാരണം ഇല്ലാതായ പച്ചപ്പിനെ കുറിച്ച് പറഞ്ഞു തുടങ്ങി, ഇനി ടോൾ കൂടെ വന്നാൽ പിന്നെ പറയണ്ട.

-plomo_O_plomo-

There will be big savings on fuel, about 30%. Then the value of time saved is immense

mand00s

If someone is traveling with 4 people in a car, the toll comes to less than ₹100 per person. If it  saves even 1 hour in the travel time, I would say it is more than worth it. Travel comfort, safety due to having lesser intersections and proper lanes would be a bonus. 

If you don't want to pay, there are trains and other means of travel. If you can afford petrol, you can afford tolls also. The problem is with our mentality.

Available-Box300

Either way you have to pay whether it's toll or they will fund their expenditures through tax money.

Use public transport whenever you can especially when traveling alone.
You can save money plus also reduce the number of single occupant vehicles on the road which disproportionately worsen congestion.

LS_Fast_Passenger

We pay heavy tax on buying the vehicle, + road tax + upto 28% gst on things we buy + apprx. 50% tax on fuel + heavy income tax , cess and still have to pay for everything the govt gives ????
Tolls are okish if it's a affordable and reasonable amount and is collected with decency. Here it is gundayism. There's a law limiting the time we wait on toll ( 5-10 sec i guess) after which the toll is free .

Affectionate-Box4772

I use a part (kovalam - kanyakumari part) of NH66 almost every day.. an I'm seeing a lot of cracks that has been covered by  patchwork on a few sections every day... Is that a normal thing, for roads to crack? I've seen potholes, but these are like full on cracks..

No-Revolution-5535

So basically, the good thing is that rich people can afford to travel faster, and poor people will continue to struggle.

ranjithsnair

NH66 is being developed at a cost of INR 100 Cr per km. Some 170 km is being developed at a cost of INR 18K crs. The entire toll collected in India for the year 2021 was INR 34k Cr. It's safe to say that Roads are a terrible infrastructure investment.

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